Disco Elysium: Talk to Joyce about the Pale without Kim - walkthrough Disco Elysium guide, walkthrough
Talk to Joyce about the Pale without Kim is a smaller quest from the game Disco Elysium, from which you can learn about the phenomenon called Edelweiss. Our walkthrough shows how to get rid of Kim and how to extract useful knowledge from Joyce.
Last update: 14 August 2024
The so-called Pale is a mysterious phenomenon from Disco Elysium, which you can learn more about by playing the quest Talk to Joyce about the Pale without Kim. Our walkthrough explains how to start this quest, how to send Kim away and how to ask Joyce all the important questions about the Pale.
Unlocking the task
As a reminder, Joyce is a woman traveling by yacht. Depending on the stage of the game, her yacht may be moored next to a residential building in the eastern Martinaise or in a fishing village if you take the quest later (see the screenshot above).
First, complete the Get a reality lowdown - we have described it on a separate page of this guide.
Wait for the Conceptualization skill check and continue asking Joyce questions about the reality around you until the topic of the so-called Pale. When you try to get more information, Kim will get in the way - you will find out that you have to interview Joyce without Kim on the team.
How to get rid of Kim?
You have several options:
- Asking Kim to leave for a while - you must pass the Volition skill check. The advantage of this method is that you'll save valuable time. It is worth saving the game before the test in case you fail it.
- Getting to the place of rest - It must be evening hours. Once you enter a hotel room or the shack in the fishing village, you will get away from Kim. However, don't end Harry's day by going to sleep, instead just return to Joyce.
- Finishing the Send victim's body to processing task - if you still have it in your journal as an active quest, then Kim can take care of the transport and will not accompany you for the rest of the day.
Talking to Joyce again
Once you are alone, you can bring up the issue of the Pale again. Complete all dialogue options related to this topic. You will complete the quest and receive 35 XP.
Gaining knowledge about the Pale is essential to obtain the best political result of the Take on La Responsibilite task. Mentioning the Pale (the phenomenon) will help you convince your interlocutor on board the Coalition Archer airship.